send him to domestic circuit...

shared by straight point on Wednesday, June 09, 2010

seems to be the remedial suggestion that has been given to yuvraj singh these days...

but does this common suggestion works with evey player irrespective of how much international cricket he has played...?

or to be specific will it be worthwhile for yuvraj after playing almost 10 years of international cricket...?

i am really curious to know... what yuvraj can learn in domestic circuit facing dindas... gonis in dead as dodo pitches that he cannot learn while facing steyn, anderson or bollingner at international level...?

8 comments:

Naked Cricket said...

then the solution is he plays domestic cricket in saf, eng, oz

straight point said...

i knew you wont count pak and nz nc... :)

Som said...

Does domestic circuit really help? Probably it does, since where else you get those match practices. And though pitches have become uniform across the globe, still conditions vary. For someone who have been around for 10 years, Yuvi probably won't gain much but at least it could have instilled some discipline/routine/drill in him. But the Q is where is domestic cricket now?

straight point said...

Yuvi probably won't gain much but at least it could have instilled some discipline/routine/drill in him.

som... if ten years of international cricket with best of support staff could not drill in the discipline wonder domestic cricket will... :)

Soulberry said...

I did call for that when there was time yet. Now it may be too late for him to develop the patience at the crease for a test career.

It is easy to run down what doemstic cricket can offer - that's the unfortunate view prevailing currently - but I recall Sunny Gavaskar making it a point to mention the role Kanga league and University played in shaping his career. Now Kanga league isn't even Ranji, though if you ask a Mumbhai, he'll tell you it is better.

What a school of learning has to offer also depends upon the willingness of a student to learn. In Yuvraj's case, his international experience is a misnomer of sorts - it is terribly skewed towards one version.

Michael Bevan ultimately found himself in the same situation - routines perfected in mind and imprinted in their muscles and reflexes proved not quite the right thing when three slips and a gully are there or if there is a forwatd short led and a silly mid off to boot to a spinner. When bowlers are not bothered by wides and economy rates.

Not that he cannot learn...actually a couple of dedicated seasons when he wasn't a required fixture in the test team would have helped develop those reflexes, that knowledge, that patience, that udgement, that decision making as is required in test cricket.

Yuvraj's folly, he is also in poor physical shape. It is still up to him to play or not in domestic cricket - on that count nobody has 'banished' him per se...just dropped for what he has become right now - he always has IPL to play isn't it?

But the message is out, if you want to work your way back, do it if your motivation is still alive at 28 and after 10 years of onesided international spotlight.

straight point said...

It is easy to run down what doemstic cricket can offer - that's the unfortunate view prevailing currently - but I recall Sunny Gavaskar making it a point to mention the role Kanga league and University played in shaping his career.

this exactly is the point sb... shaping his career is the key phrase here... but how about already shaped career and habits after 10 years at the helm...

don't get me wrong here... all i am saying now i don't think he and selectors will want to send him down to domestic cricket for 2 seasons... he will walk in before we even notice... the best way is to make him understand his role and responsibilities and what is expected of him but do not guarantee a place for him...

Soulberry said...

but how about already shaped career and habits after 10 years at the helm.

SP, I think I mentioned that working in domestic cricket...polishing and perfecting some weak aspects... might have worked well when Yuvraj was younger, still fit and hungry to establish his place.

I think this is what I said

Not that he cannot learn...actually a couple of dedicated seasons when he wasn't a required fixture in the test team would have helped develop those reflexes, that knowledge, that patience, that udgement, that decision making as is required in test cricket.


Now he is plain and simple dropped because what he is now is not what is in the best interest of the team...not 'banished' to play domestic cricket.

Anybody can rectify flaws if he wants to. International cricket doesn't appear to give sufficient balls or time to help you do that. If the player has a weakness of concentration, confidence in tackling a kind of bowling, then there are only two things he can do - either make up his mind to get past it no matter what...look silly or take body blows and just do it...or take a bit of time off from the spotlight and work a bit on developing those aspects where the spotlight's lesser.

I doubt if Yuvraj is a very good domestic player anyway, so he might actually suffer in terms of runs and further injure his chances. It is not scoring 110 or 116or 119 against say Tripura which is important or bothersome...it is what the player has learnt in doing so. Have I addressed some or all of my weaknesses...the player must ask himself. If concentration and determinatrion are the weak factors, maybe he should go and look to play as long as he can...set goals...get used to standing there with a bent back for 90 overs....in one match, then next and then another till the body and mind gets used to it.

Yuvraj's international career/experience is not wholesome...if it were, he might have sorted out some recurrent problems by now.

Now, I too feel it may not be helpful (but chaps have come back at 30 years of age) - Yuvraj's folly, he is also in poor physical shape. It is still up to him to play or not in domestic cricket - on that count nobody has 'banished' him per se...just dropped for what he has become right now - he always has IPL to play isn't it?

But the message is out, if you want to work your way back, do it if your motivation is still alive at 28 and after 10 years of onesided international spotlight.


If he cannot correct his mistakes because he has played too much international cricket, then maybe international cricket has done him harm. He can choose not to play domestic cricket for the reason that he has played a decade of international cricket and sit and wait for the next round of selections and walk back into the Indian team...he can do that...the choice is his of course to understand what might benefit him more - to retire or take up a challenge...or wait to return when the climate changes without making any changes in his own game.

straight point said...

i agree cent percent with you sb... but as i said... selectors have dropped yuvraj just for the shocking value (for him as well as us)...

now that he is dropped i hope he is made to prove his form and fitness and not just walk his way into the team...

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