we had three different results yesterday...
wi lost against oz...
kiwi lost against pomers...
and certainly...MIs 'lost it' against warne's RRC...
three defeats...same mindsets...
wi are talking about the positives they can take from the match...
to hell with positives...
they should say how hurting the defeat was...they should be kicking their own @sses...
here was a team, a team who is discovering the inhibitions against dominance they used to enjoy...
a real gutsy player who after getting hit on his head..stands again....scores a century for you...
and your bowlers drop you an honest effort away from famous victory...
what more motivation you want...
some are afraid of loosing...some are of winning...
same with kiwis...
they aptly displayed their age old nemesis...freezing at final hurdle...
all this is ridiculously predictive...
and what more you can say about MIs defeat against my adopted team...
that they are carrying forward the legacy of south africa...?
three close matches...and in all matches they were almost cruising...until that 'moment' stuck them...
i was having discussion with trideep of crickosphere...that it will be interesting to see how sachin will be captaining after taking over from pollock...
and last night confirmed my doubts...
i was taken back to oz tour he was captain of...
he looked so animated...his reaction after taking that catch...yelling on miss fields...bowling etc...throwing his hands in despair...all was same...as old sachin...
he puts enormous pressure on his colleagues being captain...to the point that they start doubting the very things they do good normally...at crucial juncture it always proves costly...
and last night was no different to MIs...
the calmness...the composure he brings to the side being just a player...is starkly opposite to when he dons captain's hat...suddenly he gets transformed in to different person altogether...
last time i used it for dhoni...but that was for positive assessment...
it shows that sachin has not moved an inch as far as captaincy goes...
three defeats...same mindsets...
Three defeats...same mindsets...
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I feel for Mumbai. 3 last ball losses. Poor Sachin.
me too...Q...but in different way ;-))
It was disappointing to see MI losing this way in the last 3 matches. But I agree with u SP on Sachin's captaincy. Earlier during our discussion, I had mentioned that it wud be gud if Pollock continued with the captaincy. He had brought the team together after 4 humiliating losses and the slap-gate episode. But that was not to be. The problem with Tendulkar's captaicy is that he expects everyone to be a great player. He is a great batsman and everyone cannot be like him. But he expects them to be like him-genius. And thats where the player starts doubting his own ability when he cannot perform as per Sachin standards. His yelling at his players, his celebration after catches are so much not Tendulkar. Whats more, I see the same symptoms in Yuvraj Singh. I guess two great batsmen but pathetic captain. Maybe its nature way of saying to some that u cannot be best everywhere.
Agreed, also it looked like Jayasuriya was asked to bat slowly today.
Maybe its nature way of saying to some that u cannot be best everywhere.
spot on trideep!
thanks wasim!
regarding jayasuriya...here i would like to give them benefit of doubt...the pitch was not slam bang type...its that he got out at wrong time...
sp, you captured the 3 prisoners -all of their own device.
the kiwis were by far the most abysmal, the Windies were happy to lose by less than 100, and MI looked inspired in spite of themselves. Esp Nehra. One look at that save at 3rd man, and he would have been my 20th over man! Not Fernando!
When winning, MI was the hottest team. Funny but till now each team has earned its wins and losses. MI no different.
trideep, the Yuvraj comparison is strangely apt - thought so too.
Agree Wasim. That's where they lost it. Like Sehwag scoring 30 of 30, what good it?
Believe both 3D and MI have got it wrong with their captains. One explodes, the other internalises. Notice how Sachin used far too many bowlers -usually that's a telling sign, VVS and RD went that way, see what it got them. Or rather, what it didn't...
NC, its not winning or loosing the manner of loosing decides the metal of a team...if they had came from behind so close that would have been another matter...but in all these three losses they were like cruising and then just imploded...
as you rightly pointed out nehra was an over short, jayasuriya too didn't completed his quota when he looked most difficult to score off...it was sign of muddled mind...
SRT was skipper when Mumbai won 3 of the 6 games during its winning streak..
And the three losses have all gone down to the wire ( twice while defending sub par scores and once because Mr Suresh Shastri decided he wanted to become the quickest trigger in the East).
And just a thought here - If CSK implode today, will we say the same nice things about MSD's captaincy?
Cheers
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Wasim, Jayasurya wouldn't have been able to play any faster yesterday. The pitch didn't suit his style of batting. His only fault probably was the difficult run out that he missed on the last ball.
NC, Nehra was good yesterday. But no one can have confidence in him for the last over. Esp after the previous match against Delhi where he bowled the last over. BTW I just remembered what the crowd were chanting during the first match between MI & 3D.. "Apne team mein unka kaun... Nehra Nehra"
Homer, when MI won under SRT, they won because of individual brilliances. Once because of Jayasurya and against KKR they won because of their bowlers. But the way SRT handles his players when they are losing shows his captaincy skills.
some are afraid of loosing...some are of winning...same with kiwis...
i dont think that could be said any better...
Beautifully said, SP. "..some are afraid of loosing...some are of winning", that sums it up. I was shocked at Sachin's batting strategy ysdy and at his captaincy, shell-shocked.
The failure of NZ and WI shelled me out. Like you ask, what more do they want.
The fear of winning is a depth with unsurmountable sides it seems.
I'm not sure if Sachin's captaincy was at fault. Exhortations may appear as scorn/scolding on tv. I thought sachin tried everything he could, which was good, including the regular tactic of halting the game after every four to get the batsman off his hot streak. It worked too, got him some wickets, stumbled the chase, till two young men decided to turn the same tactic back on Sachin in the final over. It worked then too...for them.
After that match, you heave a sigh of relied that Sachin turned down Team India captaincy after Dravid resigned.
Som,
Sachin did not do all that badly as Mumbai skipper..Both in the Ranji's and the IPL..
And if we want to break down the captaincy of each of the teams, there are enough lacunae in all the captains..
Against the Kinks of Punjab, there was a run out that was not given, a four that was denied and 4 run outs given..
Against Delhi, Mumbai had the misfortune of coming across a red hot Karthik.
And against the Royals, a sub par score was stretched till the last ball ( and with an ounce of luck or more fielding practice, the game was ours).
Three games, three par/sub par scores, 3 robust defenses... Cant question the effort..
And as far as India captaincy goes, I wonder why no media outlet has not hauled RD for dumping the Test captaincy at a time when the team was finding its bearings under him..
And, for the record, Kumble is no great shakes as captain either - great team man, very inspirational, but tactically and strategically weak
Cheers
First the WIs... let this be a lesson that no amount of praying or divine intervention will win you a test match. Hard work at the nets, more domestic match practices will help you win one.
As for sachin.... I have always thought that he was the most disastrous captain in the world... IPL doesn't change anything. But I loved his post-match comments..."common sense would have won us the game".... it may well be the last of Dilhara fernando :).
sorry guys..could not respond timely coz of some urgent biz call...
as expected very good and varied response as the name involved was sachin's...
homer
i excpected the exact comments from you...
nothing reginal about it mate but as scorpy summed it up...some common sense was needed...which as sachin himself accepted was not there hence the point on his captaincy...
warm welcome and thanks for the visit issac...
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you summed it up very aptly tri!!
this is exactly what i meant...
thanks UTP... :)
yes VM it was indeed shocking for MIs i.e. ;-)
SB, the problem is/was , as you said it, he tried too much when some common sense, again admitted by sachin himself, was the need of hour!
jayasura was bowling beautifully till then...completed only 2 overs...nehra 1 short of his quota...
i think they allowed themselves to sulk themselves on mohanl defeat which despite shastri they should have won...that created some nervous energy in team to counter the crucial and decisive junctures in all these three close matches which they would have won normally...
exactly same feeling here som... :))
i could not agree more here...scorpy!
homer,
just one question, how dhoni or for that matter dravid being good or bad has any bearing on sachin being bad or good captain?
cheers!
Homer, I don't differ with you regarding RD and Kumble. But vouching for Sachin's captaincy is defending the indefensible. And to make it clear, I did not like MSD as CSK helmsman either.
unfortunate for mumbai indians!!!
how unfortunate KP ?!!
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